Clapham otra cosa no sé, pero animar el hilo con tus comentarios lo animas.
El cash, es lo más liquido que existe ahora mismo...pues es relativamente cierto, si no fuera por un pequeño inciso.
El cash es tiempo, tiempo para ganarlo, para moverlo, para gastarlo, para crearlo.
Tu logras tu cash en base al tiempo en que te implicas para ganarlo...luego los resultados o éxito dependen de factores en muchas ocasiones externos al tiempo aplicado como todos sufrimos en nuestras carnes.
Por lo tanto el dinero es un "contenedor" de nuestro tiempo.
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The periodic table lists 118 different chemical elements. And yet, for thousands of years, humans have really, really liked one of them in particular: gold. Gold has been used as money for millennia, and its price has been going through the roof.
Why gold? Why not osmium, lithium, or ruthenium?
We went to an expert to find out: Sanat Kumar, a chemihttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/noticias/2013/12/131212_oro_valor_finde.shtmlcal engineer at Columbia University. We asked him to take the periodic table, and start eliminating anything that wouldn't work as money.
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The periodic table looks kind of like a bingo card. Each square has a different element in it — one for carbon, another for gold, and so on.
Sanat starts with the far-right column of the table. The elements there have a really appealing characteristic: They're not going to change. They're chemically stable.
But there's also a big drawback: They're gases. You could put all your gaseous money in a jar, but if you peine the jar, you'd be broke. So Sanat crosses out the right-hand column.
Then he swings over to the far left-hand column, and points to one of the elements there: Lithium
"If you expose lithium to air, it will cause a huge fire that can burn through concrete walls," he says.
Money that spontaneously bursts into flames is clearly a bad idea. In fact, you don't want your money undergoing any kind of spontaneous chemical reactions. And it turns out that a lot of the elements in the periodic table are pretty reactive.
Not all of them burst into flames. But sometimes they corrode, start to fall apart.
So Sanat crosses out another 38 elements, because they're too reactive.
Then we ask him about those two weird rows at the bottom of the table. They're always broken out separately from the main table, and they have some great names — promethium, einsteinium.
But it turns out they're radioactive — put some einsteinium in your pocket, and a year later, you'll be dead.
So we're down from 118 elements to 30, and we've come up with a list of three key requirements:
Not a gas.
Doesn't corrode or burst into flames
Doesn't kill you.
Now Sanat adds a new requirement: You want the thing you pick to be rare. This lets him cross off a lot of the boxes near the top of the table, because the elements clustered there tend to be more abundant.
At the same time, you don't want to pick an element that's too rare. So osmium — which apparently comes to earth via meteorites — gets the axe.
That leaves us with just five elements: rhodium, palladium, silver, platinum and gold. And all of them, as it happens, are considered precious metals.
But even here we can cross things out. Silver has been widely used as money, of course. But its reactive — it tarnishes. So Sanat says it's not the best choice.
Early civilizations couldn't have used rhodium or palladium, because they weren't discovered until the early 1800s.
That leaves platinum and gold, both of which can be found in rivers and streams.
But if you were in the ancient world and wanted to make platinum coins, you would have needed some sort of magic furnace from the future. The melting point for platinum is over 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Gold happens to melt at a much lower temperature, which made it much easier for pre-industrial people to work with.
So we ask Sanat: If we could run the clock back and start history again, could things go a different way, or would gold emerge again as the element of choice?
"For the earth, with every parameter we have, gold is the sweet spot," he says. "It would come out no other way."
Today of course, we don't use gold as money; we use paper. It doesn't kill you, but it can be found in abundance and has an annoying tendency to burn when it comes into contact with a flame.
In a future story, we'll explain how we came to use paper money instead of gold.
For more:
This story is the second in a series. The first installment is here: "We Bought Gold!"
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Un billete de 100$ contiene más tiempo que uno de 1$
La liquidez al dinero fiat, se la otorga la fiabilidad en el sistema y en como se valora nuestro tiempo reflejado ene se fiat.
Si trabajas 8 horas y ganas 1$ el sistema no funciona...que es lo que sucede en países híper inflacionados o con crisis galopantes de empleo.
Tus 8 horas de trabajo en Miami podrían valer 150$, ero en la Calcuta puede que valgan 10$
¿Qué da valor al cash?
Antes de Nixon podíamos decir que el oro...ahora nos basamos en PIB y paparruchas similares.
¿Qué da valor al oro?
Podría decirte que su escasez, y muchos lo aceptarían, pero hay cosas más escasas y que valen mucho menos, como un garabato de mi descendiente en un papel.
¿Las horas necesarias para extraerlo/elaborarlo?
Tampoco es mal método para dar valor a algo...pero tampoco, pues por ejemplo el coral rojo exige más riesgo y horas de trabajo y vale mucho menos.
¿Qué le da valor al BTC?
...
Pues lo mismo que al oro, que al dinero y que a las muyer bonitas...que la cultura nos ha inculcado que lo queremos, y como todos lo queremos, debemos de luchar entre nosotros para poseerlo.
Siempre asocio valor con modas.
Cuando algo se pone de moda, aumenta su valor de mercado...esto sirve para una acción, para una zona residencial, para un modelo de gafas, un corte de pelo...
El oro lleva miles de años de moda, el dinero fiat, unas décadas, y el BTC unos pocos años...pero por estar de moda, los deseamos.
¿Quién crea las modas?
En el caso del oro, habría que indagar mucho, pero supongo que por ser un metal con un brillo y tonalidad llamativo, y fácil de labrar/laminar/fundir...se usó como alhaja para "dioses, gobernantes, nobles..."
En el caso del fiat, la moda la impuso el estado, y la impuso con el aval de si mismo, y por lo tanto, de todos los integrantes del estado...y en última instancia con el aval de los ejércitos.
Y el BTC...es lo que nos coge más desconcertados ahora mismo...sinceramente creo que lo que otorga valor a la moda de BTC es que pensamos que podemos poseer valor de un modo anónimo, y lejos de las garras estatales...ojo, he dicho creemos, no que así sea al 100%
En el post colapso, las modas habrán cambiado, quién sabe por que y por cuanto tiempo...lo único que te aseguro que no cambiará es que el tiempo seguirá teniendo valor, y por lo tanto, será lo más líquido que poseerás para poder generar otros medios de intercambio de ese mismo valor que tu has generado.
Un saludo y buen sábado
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