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Wall Street walloped anew
Stocks continue the slide, with the Dow and S&P 500 falling to fresh multi-year lows.
Last Updated: March 5, 2009: 3:31 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks plunged to fresh 12-year lows Thursday as investors waded through more grim news: GM said its survival is in doubt, bank shares took a beating and Citigroup fell below a buck.
Adding to the global woes: China defied expectations by failing to boost its economic stimulus program.
The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) fell 230 points, or 3.3%, with 40 minutes left in the session. Earlier, the Dow fell as low as 6,600.65, the lowest point since April 21, 1997.
The Nasdaq composite (COMP) fell 38 points, or 2.8%, holding just above its November 21st session lows. The tech-fueled average has held up better than the other major average so far this year. However, if it closes around 1,315, where it stood around 3:15 p.m. ET, that would put it at an almost 6-year low.
The S&P 500 (SPX) index lost 30 points or 4.3%. Earlier, it had fallen as low as 682.32, the lowest point since Sept. 23, 1996.
Stocks slipped at the open and kept falling from there, with the selling accelerating as the major gauges failed to hang on to key technical levels that traders watch.
"Once we broke through that 700 level on the S&P, which has been intact since 1996, all the people who were watching it left the building," said Joe Clark, market analyst at Financial Enhancement Group.
He said that with the major gauges at these levels, market pros have even less of a sense of where the so-called bottom is.
Stocks have been sliding on and off since peaking in October of 2007 amid the housing and credit market collapse and the onset of the recession - which technically began in Dec. 2007.
But the declines have picked up the pace year-to-date in response to growing pessimism about the economy. As of Wednesday's close, the Dow is down 23% this year, the worst start in the 113-year history of the Dow.
Since hitting an all-time closing high of 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007, the Dow has fallen 51.5% as of Wednesday's close.
Since hitting an all-time closing high of 1,565.15 on Oct. 9, 2007, the S&P 500 has fallen 54.5% as of Wednesday's close.
Since hitting a bull-market high of 2,859.12 on Oct. 31, 2007, the Nasdaq has stumbled 52.5%. But the Nasdaq has never come near its all-time high of 5,048.62 hit on March 10, 2000, at the height of the Internet boom.
Financials: Among the big losers, financials were hit especially hard. Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), Citigroup (C, Fortune 500), Wells Fargo (WFC, Fortune 500) and Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500) were among the losers. The KBW Bank (BKX) index lost 10%.
Citigroup fell below $1 a share to its lowest level ever.
A variety of insurers slipped including Allstate (ALL, Fortune 500), MetLife (MET, Fortune 500), Chubb (CB, Fortune 500), Pogre (PGR, Fortune 500) and Hartford Financial Services (HIG, Fortune 500).
Failed insurance giant AIG (AIG, Fortune 500) slumped 16% as U.S. regulators discussed the company's $180 billion bailout in a Senate hearing.
"It's the same old story, with the financial sector continuing to hammer the market," said Steven Goldman, market strategist at Weeden & Co.
"Everybody is so bearish right now that you would expect to be in the midst of a counter-trend rally," he said. "But the implosion in the banking and insurance sectors is just overwhelming."
Stocks managed to snap back from 12-year lows Wednesday on hopes that China would announce that it was increasing the size of its stimulus plan. But the Chinese premier did not announce any boost to the $586 billion plan at a key political meeting in Beijing Thursday. (Full story)
GM: Concerns about the outlook for General Motors also weighed on stocks Thursday. GM said in its annual filing that there is substantial doubt about the automaker's ability to survive.
The company has sustained huge losses over the course of the recession and has already received $13.4 billion in federal loans. GM has said it needs additional federal money to stay afloat. GM (GM, Fortune 500) shares fell 17%.
Wal-Mart Stores: The world's No. 1 retailer reported a bigger-than-expected jump in February sales, thanks in part to lower gas prices. Wal-Mart said that that sales at stores open a year or more, a retail metric known as same-store sales, rose 5.1% in February versus forecasts for a rise of 2.4%.
Separately, the company said it is boosting its annual dividend by 15% to $1.09 from 95 cents per share. Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) shares rose 4%.
As a result of Wal-Mart, the overall retail sector is now expected to show a slight rise in February same-store sales, versus previous forecasts for a decline, according to Thomson Reuters.
Nonetheless, many retailers continued to see weaker sales, due to the impact of the slowing economy and growing joblessness.
Wal-Mart rival Target (TGT, Fortune 500) said sales fell 4.1%, sending shares 2% lower.
Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF) said same-store sales plunged 30% in the month, sending shares of the clothing retailer down 14.5%. Nordstrom (JWN, Fortune 500) said sales fell 15.4%, sending shares of the department store chain down more than 8.5%.
Gymboree (GYMB) warned late Wednesday that first-quarter profit will miss forecasts and same-store sales in the quarter will slide 20% to 25%. Shares of the children's clothing retailer plunged 27% Thursday morning.
Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers beat winners 11 to 1 on volume of 900 million shares. On the Nasdaq, decliners topped advancers four to one on volume of 1.21 billion shares.
Economy: January factory orders fell 1.9% after dropping 4.9% in the previous month. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com thought orders would fall 3.5%.
The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment fell to 639,000 last week from 670,000 in the previous week, versus economists' forecasts for a drop to 650,000.
Another report showed that fourth-quarter business productivity was weaker than initially reported, falling at a revised 0.4% annual rate versus the initially reported 3.2% annual rate. Economists thought it would grow at a 1.1% annual rate.
Bonds: Treasury prices rallied, lowering the yield on the benchmark 10-year note to 2.82% from 2.98% Wednesday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions.
Lending rates were little changed. The 3-month Libor rate held steady at 1.28%, unchanged from Wednesday, while the overnight Libor rate rose to 0.32% from 0.31%, according to Bloomberg.com. Libor is a bank-to-bank lending rate.
Other markets: In global trading, most Asian markets ended lower with the exception of the Japanese Nikkei. European markets tumbled.
In currency trading, the dollar gained versus the euro and fell against the yen.
U.S. light crude oil for April delivery fell $1.77 to settle at $43.61 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
COMEX gold for April delivery rose $21.10 to settle at $927.80 an ounce.
Talkback: Are you living on your unemployment check? How are you making ends meet? What bills are you paying - and which ones are sliding? E-mail your story to realstories@cnnmoney.com and you could be part of an upcoming article.
Stocks continue the slide, with the Dow and S&P 500 falling to fresh multi-year lows.
Last Updated: March 5, 2009: 3:31 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks plunged to fresh 12-year lows Thursday as investors waded through more grim news: GM said its survival is in doubt, bank shares took a beating and Citigroup fell below a buck.
Adding to the global woes: China defied expectations by failing to boost its economic stimulus program.
The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) fell 230 points, or 3.3%, with 40 minutes left in the session. Earlier, the Dow fell as low as 6,600.65, the lowest point since April 21, 1997.
The Nasdaq composite (COMP) fell 38 points, or 2.8%, holding just above its November 21st session lows. The tech-fueled average has held up better than the other major average so far this year. However, if it closes around 1,315, where it stood around 3:15 p.m. ET, that would put it at an almost 6-year low.
The S&P 500 (SPX) index lost 30 points or 4.3%. Earlier, it had fallen as low as 682.32, the lowest point since Sept. 23, 1996.
Stocks slipped at the open and kept falling from there, with the selling accelerating as the major gauges failed to hang on to key technical levels that traders watch.
"Once we broke through that 700 level on the S&P, which has been intact since 1996, all the people who were watching it left the building," said Joe Clark, market analyst at Financial Enhancement Group.
He said that with the major gauges at these levels, market pros have even less of a sense of where the so-called bottom is.
Stocks have been sliding on and off since peaking in October of 2007 amid the housing and credit market collapse and the onset of the recession - which technically began in Dec. 2007.
But the declines have picked up the pace year-to-date in response to growing pessimism about the economy. As of Wednesday's close, the Dow is down 23% this year, the worst start in the 113-year history of the Dow.
Since hitting an all-time closing high of 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007, the Dow has fallen 51.5% as of Wednesday's close.
Since hitting an all-time closing high of 1,565.15 on Oct. 9, 2007, the S&P 500 has fallen 54.5% as of Wednesday's close.
Since hitting a bull-market high of 2,859.12 on Oct. 31, 2007, the Nasdaq has stumbled 52.5%. But the Nasdaq has never come near its all-time high of 5,048.62 hit on March 10, 2000, at the height of the Internet boom.
Financials: Among the big losers, financials were hit especially hard. Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), Citigroup (C, Fortune 500), Wells Fargo (WFC, Fortune 500) and Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500) were among the losers. The KBW Bank (BKX) index lost 10%.
Citigroup fell below $1 a share to its lowest level ever.
A variety of insurers slipped including Allstate (ALL, Fortune 500), MetLife (MET, Fortune 500), Chubb (CB, Fortune 500), Pogre (PGR, Fortune 500) and Hartford Financial Services (HIG, Fortune 500).
Failed insurance giant AIG (AIG, Fortune 500) slumped 16% as U.S. regulators discussed the company's $180 billion bailout in a Senate hearing.
"It's the same old story, with the financial sector continuing to hammer the market," said Steven Goldman, market strategist at Weeden & Co.
"Everybody is so bearish right now that you would expect to be in the midst of a counter-trend rally," he said. "But the implosion in the banking and insurance sectors is just overwhelming."
Stocks managed to snap back from 12-year lows Wednesday on hopes that China would announce that it was increasing the size of its stimulus plan. But the Chinese premier did not announce any boost to the $586 billion plan at a key political meeting in Beijing Thursday. (Full story)
GM: Concerns about the outlook for General Motors also weighed on stocks Thursday. GM said in its annual filing that there is substantial doubt about the automaker's ability to survive.
The company has sustained huge losses over the course of the recession and has already received $13.4 billion in federal loans. GM has said it needs additional federal money to stay afloat. GM (GM, Fortune 500) shares fell 17%.
Wal-Mart Stores: The world's No. 1 retailer reported a bigger-than-expected jump in February sales, thanks in part to lower gas prices. Wal-Mart said that that sales at stores open a year or more, a retail metric known as same-store sales, rose 5.1% in February versus forecasts for a rise of 2.4%.
Separately, the company said it is boosting its annual dividend by 15% to $1.09 from 95 cents per share. Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) shares rose 4%.
As a result of Wal-Mart, the overall retail sector is now expected to show a slight rise in February same-store sales, versus previous forecasts for a decline, according to Thomson Reuters.
Nonetheless, many retailers continued to see weaker sales, due to the impact of the slowing economy and growing joblessness.
Wal-Mart rival Target (TGT, Fortune 500) said sales fell 4.1%, sending shares 2% lower.
Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF) said same-store sales plunged 30% in the month, sending shares of the clothing retailer down 14.5%. Nordstrom (JWN, Fortune 500) said sales fell 15.4%, sending shares of the department store chain down more than 8.5%.
Gymboree (GYMB) warned late Wednesday that first-quarter profit will miss forecasts and same-store sales in the quarter will slide 20% to 25%. Shares of the children's clothing retailer plunged 27% Thursday morning.
Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers beat winners 11 to 1 on volume of 900 million shares. On the Nasdaq, decliners topped advancers four to one on volume of 1.21 billion shares.
Economy: January factory orders fell 1.9% after dropping 4.9% in the previous month. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com thought orders would fall 3.5%.
The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment fell to 639,000 last week from 670,000 in the previous week, versus economists' forecasts for a drop to 650,000.
Another report showed that fourth-quarter business productivity was weaker than initially reported, falling at a revised 0.4% annual rate versus the initially reported 3.2% annual rate. Economists thought it would grow at a 1.1% annual rate.
Bonds: Treasury prices rallied, lowering the yield on the benchmark 10-year note to 2.82% from 2.98% Wednesday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions.
Lending rates were little changed. The 3-month Libor rate held steady at 1.28%, unchanged from Wednesday, while the overnight Libor rate rose to 0.32% from 0.31%, according to Bloomberg.com. Libor is a bank-to-bank lending rate.
Other markets: In global trading, most Asian markets ended lower with the exception of the Japanese Nikkei. European markets tumbled.
In currency trading, the dollar gained versus the euro and fell against the yen.
U.S. light crude oil for April delivery fell $1.77 to settle at $43.61 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
COMEX gold for April delivery rose $21.10 to settle at $927.80 an ounce.
Talkback: Are you living on your unemployment check? How are you making ends meet? What bills are you paying - and which ones are sliding? E-mail your story to realstories@cnnmoney.com and you could be part of an upcoming article.
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He creado un hiperenlace (que molón queda eh?) con la palabreja "Tienes que estar registrado para ver este contenido" en la secciónTienes que estar registrado para ver este contenidode forma que siempre que escribáis [[corto]] en un artículo queda referenciado, y así salir de dudas
A mi me gusta, sólo faltaría incluir la posibilidad de los CFDs para ponerse corto (o largo)
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DJIA 6,546.25 -4.79%
NASDAQ 1,298.74 -4.06%
S&P 500 677.93 -4.90%
Voy a morir joven... 🙁
Todavía estás vivo? 😕: Ahora me quedo más tranquilo... 😀
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Tonuel..se te acumulan los certificados hoy.....😀
El ibex ya recibió los suyos hamijo... 😀
Saludos 😉
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Mi impresion es que estamos viendo ya la luz al final del tunel. Puede que en los 7000 este el suelo.
¿Aún estamos con esas? 😱:
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Mi impresion es que estamos viendo ya la luz al final del tunel. Puede que en los 7000 este el suelo.
Esa afirmación sin dinero detrás que la respalde, vale de poco... 😎:
Entra largo mañana a ver que tal...
Saludos...
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El tema está dolido hoy, señores. Gm no aguanta, no aguanta más ... buff.
Lo del latún va a dejar de ser una tontería.
Que la lleven a morir a casa.
De momento se ha agarrado al 680.
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El tema está dolido hoy, señores. Gm no aguanta, no aguanta más ... buff.
Lo del latún va a dejar de ser una tontería.
Mi despensa te parece una tontería... 😱:
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Algunas pequeñas dudas.... reconozco que estoy bastante pez en bolsa.
- Casi siempre se habla de contratos de futuros, nadie "juega" con contratos de diferencias?, los CFDs?. Para jugar corto en la bolsa no es mejor los CFDs?.
- Si prohiben los cortos en la bolsa, que pasa con el que tenga abiertos cortos?. La prohibicion sería para abrir nuevos digo yo.
- Cuando se habla de prohibir los cortos se entiende que es todo lo que implique jugar a la baja en la bolsa verdad?, venta futuros, venta de CFDs..
Estoy pensando entrar en corto con CFDs sobre el indice general del IBEX35, la tendencia seguirá siendo bajista, el único miedo es si entrar ahora y arriesgarme a un fuerte rebote o esperarme al rebote para entrar corto.
Según los ana-listos dicen se espera una caida fuerte de 600 o hasta 1000 puntos en breve, luego vendria un rebote y a seguir cayendo hasta el infinito...
Yo la verdad que lo creo probable, le veo una cierta lógica.
Otra opción es comprar futuros sobre el oro pero creo que son muy caros.
Lo de entrar sobre el IBEX35 y no sobre algún valor concreto es porque es menos manipulable, entrar sobre un valor es más complicado, tienes que estar muy bien informado.
Si hubiera abiertos cortos cuando lo pensé habria doblado mi dinero 🙁
Pero me daba miedo, se sabe entrar pero lo complicado es salir.. ganando, y siempre quieres más y más hasta que sales despeluchado.
- Casi siempre se habla de contratos de futuros, nadie "juega" con contratos de diferencias?, los CFDs?. Para jugar corto en la bolsa no es mejor los CFDs?.
- Si prohiben los cortos en la bolsa, que pasa con el que tenga abiertos cortos?. La prohibicion sería para abrir nuevos digo yo.
- Cuando se habla de prohibir los cortos se entiende que es todo lo que implique jugar a la baja en la bolsa verdad?, venta futuros, venta de CFDs..
Estoy pensando entrar en corto con CFDs sobre el indice general del IBEX35, la tendencia seguirá siendo bajista, el único miedo es si entrar ahora y arriesgarme a un fuerte rebote o esperarme al rebote para entrar corto.
Según los ana-listos dicen se espera una caida fuerte de 600 o hasta 1000 puntos en breve, luego vendria un rebote y a seguir cayendo hasta el infinito...
Yo la verdad que lo creo probable, le veo una cierta lógica.
Otra opción es comprar futuros sobre el oro pero creo que son muy caros.
Lo de entrar sobre el IBEX35 y no sobre algún valor concreto es porque es menos manipulable, entrar sobre un valor es más complicado, tienes que estar muy bien informado.
Si hubiera abiertos cortos cuando lo pensé habria doblado mi dinero 🙁
Pero me daba miedo, se sabe entrar pero lo complicado es salir.. ganando, y siempre quieres más y más hasta que sales despeluchado.
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Todavía estás vivo? Ahora me quedo más tranquilo...
Cuando vengan a por mí les enseñaré lo que vale un peine... 😱:
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Tengo estopa y atún de sobra... 😀
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A mi me gusta, sólo faltaría incluir la posibilidad de los CFDs para ponerse corto (o largo)
Sin duda, de hecho quisiera hacer especial mención a los CFDs, si te animas con algún ejemplo sería ideal, les pongo un "
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joer, algún día tendrá que parar de bajar
no puede ser tan fácil como abrir cortos y esperar sentado
es igual de falso el "la bolsa siempre sube" como "la bolsa siempre baja"
ya sé que todos pensáis lo contrario....
no puede ser tan fácil como abrir cortos y esperar sentado
es igual de falso el "la bolsa siempre sube" como "la bolsa siempre baja"
ya sé que todos pensáis lo contrario....
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mañana nos alcercaremos a los 6100...6000...quizas este exagerando un pelin😀
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mañana nos alcercaremos a los 6100...6000...quizas este exagerando un pelin😀
Mañana te voy a poner un nelson de regalo con el owned del dia... 🙂
Que sueñes con los angelitos... 😀
Saludos 😉
ya sé que todos pensáis lo contrario....
Esa es la mejor señal para un rebote...
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joer, algún día tendrá que parar de bajar
no puede ser tan fácil como abrir cortos y esperar sentado
es igual de falso el "la bolsa siempre sube" como "la bolsa siempre baja"
ya sé que todos pensáis lo contrario....
No es que siempre baje, es que la situación es malísima y aún le queda mucho por bajar, algún día subirá, si sigue existiendo claro. :o
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http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliari...no-llegamos-final-de-pandero.html#post1501521
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliari...n-del-sistema-global-por-jorge-beinstein.html
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Es ponerse corto y la bolsa sube...te pones largo y baja....
Mañana como estoy dentro,me voy a poner corto con la misma cantidad,por lo menos me quedo igual.
PD: En el FAQ explicar bien lo del apalancamiento,que es muy importante...
Mañana como estoy dentro,me voy a poner corto con la misma cantidad,por lo menos me quedo igual.
PD: En el FAQ explicar bien lo del apalancamiento,que es muy importante...
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He escuchado tantos rebotes que voy a abrir una porra... que seria de burbuja.info sin porras... 😀
Cuando rebotará el Ibex...?
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Saludos...
Cuando rebotará el Ibex...?
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Saludos...
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cosillas...
SANTANDER
BBVA
ENDESA
SANTANDER
Harbinger Capital Partners Master Fund I, LTD ha comunicado que posee el 0.34 por ciento del capital del Banco Santander, es decir 28 millones de acciones, en posición corta. A pesar de los retrocesos de la acción, Harbinger sigue elevando su apuesta bajista ya que ayer tarde comunicó que poseía el 0,32 por ciento del capital en posición corta.
Los títulos del Banco Santander retrocedieron un 7,63 por ciento hasta los 4,24 euros, en la sesión de hoy.
BBVA
Harbinger Capital Partners Master Fund I, LTD ha comunicado que posee el 1,07% del capital del BBVA, es decir 40 millones de acciones, en posición corta. Harbinger comunicó ayer tarde que poseía el 1,04% del capital en posición corta
Las acciones del BBVA han cerrado la jornada con una caída del 7,05 por ciento hasta los 4,88 euros.
ENDESA
Según un agente de mercado "las acciones de Endesa están subiendo por cobertura de posiciones cortas antes del dividendo, ya que la gente que ha tomado títulos prestados tendrá que pagar el dividendo a quien se los prestó, lo que no es atractivo para los cortos, sobre todo cuando se trata de un dividendo tan grande".
Según las últimas cifras oficiales, Endesa tiene 55 millones de acciones en posiciones cortas.
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