*Tema mítico* : Hilo oficial del Bitcoin (VI)

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Es que la verdadera potencia del protocolo bitcoin y sus secuelas (ethereum, bitshares....) está en el desarrollo de los smart contracts. De hecho el bitcoin, como moneda, no es mas que una pequeña muestra de un potencial inmenso que va a revolucionar, en el sentido más profundo del termino, todas las formas de relación contractual entre cualquier tipo de entidad ya sean personas, empresas o administración.

Esto va muchísimo mas allá de los vaivenes que pueda sufrir la cotización del BTC.

digipl:

Sólo advertirte que, tal como indicas, una cosa es el "protocolo" y otra el "btc".

Para muchos, saldrá más barato, o será una tentación, o ganarán más dinero creando su propia "cripto" para desarrollar diferentes formatos de "smart contracts".

Te aviso esto porque, si sale más barato usar btc y "colorearlos" seguramente ese será el camino pero, si sale más barato crear "mi sistema de contratos criptograficos", se usará eso.

Esto porque hay gente que supone una "revalorización al infinito" sin advertir que, para cualquier operador de peso, llegado el punto de conveniencia, tiene el protocolo para usarlo a su gusto sin tener que pagar un "peaje" a los tenedores del bitcoin.

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Has visto la nota realmente ?

Unos piratones que dejan chico al "Lobo de Wall Street" y, lo que hacen, es mediante COINBASE permitirte "fondear" tu cuenta de DOLARES pagando en BITCOIN.

Esto es... "gastas" tus bitcoins para abrir una cuenta EN DOLARES con ellos.

No es una inversión "en" bitcoins sino, sencillamente, que se los vendes a COINBASE (como agente de pagos) y ellos pagan en dólares para que tengas tu cuenta fondeada.

Viendo su sitio web no les dejaría ni un paraguas para que me lo cuiden un rato. :rolleye:

 
Israeli startups dream of a Bitcoin world



(Reuters) - "Welcome to the new economy," boasts a sign at the entrance of the self-styled Bitcoin Embassy in the heart of Tel Aviv.

The sparely furnished property peine a few months ago to support a community of Bitcoin fanatics, perhaps the most active in the world, who are out to build just that - a next-generation trading system based on the digital currency.

At least two dozen startups have popped up in Israel over the past year with a view to creating tools that will allow the currency to be used in almost any kind of transaction - from buying shoes to sending remittances or issuing company stock.

Israeli companies are pioneers in hi-tech fields like cryptography, fraud prevention, and semiconductors, all of which interact with the Bitcoin universe.

That makes the country as much of a Bitcoin hotspot as Singapore or California's Silicon Valley, says Eli Novershtern, principal of Israel's biggest venture capital firm Pitango, which manages assets worth over $1.6 billion.

"We see a lot of activity here and are certainly looking to invest (in such firms), even significant sums if we recognize an attractive opportunity," he said, without offering details of specific plans.

As a crypto-currency, Bitcoin is passed between two parties digitally and can be traded on exchanges for real-world currencies. Its value fluctuates according to user demand but it is not backed by any government or central bank.

New bitcoins come from a process called mining. Computer programmers around the world compete to sustancia ilegal an automatically generated code and the first to do so is rewarded with a small stash. This happens about every 10 minutes.

The maximum potential number of bitcoins in circulation is 21 million compared with around 12 million currently - meaning that, over time, the payoffs get smaller.

Enthusiasts hope the circulation limit and wider acceptance of the currency will miccionan its value goes up. One bitcoin is currently worth about $700, giving the currency a total potential market value of about $9 billion.

As recently as 2012 it was changing hands for $10.

Netanel Goldberg, 42, heads GetReal Platforms, a company he and two other graduates of Israel's military cyber intelligence unit founded last year.

He foresees a "bloodbath" as ever stronger computer networks compete to mine the most bitcoins - a market he expects to grab a sizable chunk of, thanks to a silicon-based chip that GetReal is developing.

SECONDARY MARKET

Bitcoin was spawned by a still unidentified developer known as Satoshi Nakamoto in 2009, when the global financial crisis meant distrust of banks and governments was high.

Initially there was a libertarian appeal, said Ron Finberg, who runs the website Digital Currency Magnates.

But in Israel, technology had always been the currency's driving force, he said. Now the "boundary-less system" was fostering ever more innovative applications.

Mathematician Meni Rosenfeld said his team is developing a product called "colored coins" that will allow bitcoins to carry a secondary value, such as equity in a company.

A company will be able to take small fractions of a bitcoin, give them a digital marker, or "tonalidad", and distribute them to shareholders.

"They represent stock in every way," said Rosenfeld, who is also chairman of the Israeli Bitcoin Association. The same could be done with bonds or car ownership, he said.

REGULATORY RESPONSE

There has been a mixed reaction to Bitcoin around the world.

Supporters are drawn to its decentralized platform and say it is here to stay. Detractors call it a bubble and expect it to be forgotten in a year or two.

But its growing popularity is undeniable, and governments and regulators have been searching for the best way to respond.

"The Bank of Israel is ...examining the need for some sort of regulation regarding electronic, virtual and other similar currencies," said Yoav Seffer, spokesman for the central bank.

Most retailers do not accept Bitcoin, making it hard for users to shop. One Tel Aviv startup, however, has shown that the convenience of using digital money can draw enormous interest.

AppCoin developed a program that easily generates virtual currencies and teamed up with an online community of mothers in a trial run. The moms were given a new tender, called "hearts", and agreed to use it to buy and sell items.

A year later the network swelled to 50,000 members with hundreds of transactions carried out each day.

The company plans to offer a service so anyone, anywhere can create their own currency, but for now it is focused on a beta-version it just released of a Bitcoin bazaar, called Satoshi Marketplace, accessible by phone to anyone in the world.

"Just as the internet revolutionized the way we exchange information, smartphones will redefine how people exchange value - by using digital currencies and virtual marketplaces," said Eyal Hertzog, product architect at AppCoin.

Last month, members of the Bitcoin community and officials from the private sector and government gathered at the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange to discuss the future of the digital currency.

The assembly was hosted by Eden Shochat, founder of venture capital firm Aleph, which manages about $150 million.

"The ability to transfer value in a frictionless way without transaction fees represents a tidal wave, and when that happens our role is to help, advise and fund these kinds of companies," he said.
 
No lo he visto.. que han dicho? bueno, malo, regular? :roto2:



pues no tengo ni idea de que han dicho porque me ha pillado en un bar y no se escuchaba nada..pero si, ha ansioso lo de mtgox, lo de silk road como malo y como bueno empresas que aceptan bitcoins y tal..pero vamos, que no he podido escuchar nada, solo ver imagenes
 
Bitcoin withdrawal works #btce
 


Y ahora bitstamp.
 
estan siendo atacados

 


A “massive and concerted attack” has been launched by a bot system on numerous bitcoin exchanges, Andreas Antonopoulos has revealed.

The chief security officer of Blockchain.info said a DDoS attack is taking Bitcoin’s transaction malleability problem and applying it to many transactions in the network, simultaneously.

“So as transactions are being created, malformed/parallel transactions are also being created so as to create a fog of confusion over the entire network, which then affects almost every single implementation out there,” he added.

Antonopoulos went on to say that Blockchain.info’s implementation is not affected, but some exchanges have been affected – their internal accounting systems are gradually going out of sync with the network.

He stressed that this isn’t affecting withdrawals, because these exchanges are not processing them automatically.

Antonopoulos said we will see a few exchanges suspend withdrawals temporarily while they re-work their accounting systems to ensure they are not confused by the attack.

“It’s important to note no funds have been lost. Withdrawals have been halted to prevent funds from being lost or to prevent the balances from going out of sync,” he stressed.
Industry action

An industry-wide coordinated response has been put into action, with exchanges and core developers collaborating actively to attack the problem from multiple angles.

Various other groups within the ecosystem, including the big mining pools, are working to stop the issue from propagating across the network.

Any exchanges that are affected are working on fixing their internal systems so they correct the account balances and can resume withdrawals as soon as possible.

“I would expect to see withdrawals flowing again within 24 and 72 hours, and in the meantime, any withdrawals that were cancelled will reappear in customer account balances,” Antonopoulos explained.



Bitstamp has issued the trinc statement:

Dear Bitstamp users

Bitstamp’s exchange software is extremely cautious concerning Bitcoin transactions. Currently it has suspended processing Bitcoin withdrawals due to inconsistent results reported by our bitcoind wallet, caused by a denial-of-service attack using transaction malleability to temporarily disrupt balance checking. As such, Bitcoin withdrawal processing will be suspended temporarily until a software fix is issued.

No funds have been lost and no funds are at risk.

This is a denial-of-service attack made possible by some misunderstandings in the Bitcoin wallet implementation. These misunderstandings have simple solutions that are being implemented as we speak, and we’re confident everything will be back to normal shortly.

Withdrawals which failed on the 10th and 11th of February will be canceled and the amounts added back to the customer account balances.

We will communicate any further developments regarding this issue.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards
Bitstamp team
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Tx malleability is now used in active broad-based attack against bitcoin network. Funds NOT at risk, but Denial-of-Service in pogre



AVISO:
Cread vuestro wallet en vuestro ORDENADOR y haced copias.
 
El FBI,la CIA,la NSA ,el pentagono y su querida progenitora poniendose las pilas contra bitcoin.Van a por el.
 
El FBI,la CIA,la NSA ,el pentagono y su querida progenitora poniendose las pilas contra bitcoin.Van a por el.

No conseguirán su objetivo de tumbarlo, son unos con poca gracias.

Todo esto no es más que parte de la hoja de ruta para que la gente no tenga dinero, en máximo 20 días viene el ocaso usano, a partir de ese día vendrá el efecto dominó de manera global y sistémico, nos defecaremos por la pata abajo, cuando la gente vea que su dinero no vale veremos que sucede con las criptomonedas.

¿Será en ese momento cuando también se cargarán la red?

Dow a 16xxx y después pabajo sin freno.

Calculad los días y vereis cuanto queda.
 
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en máximo 20 días viene el ocaso usano, a partir de ese día vendrá el efecto dominó de manera global y sistémico, nos defecaremos por la pata abajo, cuando la gente vea que su dinero no vale veremos que sucede con las criptomonedas [...] Dow a 16xxx y después pabajo sin freno.

Vamos a ir citando, que 20 días pasan volando.
 
 
Espero que tengáis TODO fuera de los exchanges. Mtgox ayer y bitstamp hoy y ambos aludiendo a un fallo... Cuidado!!!
 
Vamos a ir citando, que 20 días pasan volando.

Si hombre, tu cita, asi yo tambien me acordaré y si no sucede nada pues que le haremos, es una teoria y como tal puede que suceda o no.

Todo está por ver.

Pero como se dice por arriba,
Espero que tengáis TODO fuera de los exchanges. Mtgox ayer y bitstamp hoy y ambos aludiendo a un fallo... Cuidado!!!

Que es tema que nos ocupa.
 
Si hombre, tu cita, asi yo tambien me acordaré y si no sucede nada pues que le haremos, es una teoria y como tal puede que suceda o no.

Todo está por ver.

Si no pasa lo que usted dice, tanto mejor.
El caso es que pronosticar la caída de USA y en consecuencia del occidente capitalista a veinte dias vista es pillarse un poco los dedos.
 
No conseguirán su objetivo de tumbarlo, son unos con poca gracias.

Todo esto no es más que parte de la hoja de ruta para que la gente no tenga dinero, en máximo 20 días viene el ocaso usano, a partir de ese día vendrá el efecto dominó de manera global y sistémico, nos defecaremos por la pata abajo, cuando la gente vea que su dinero no vale veremos que sucede con las criptomonedas.

¿Será en ese momento cuando también se cargarán la red?

Dow a 16xxx y después pabajo sin freno.

Calculad los días y vereis cuanto queda.

que pasa dentro de 20 dias?
 
Mas leña para el fuego: parece que alguien esta spameando el blockchain masivamente con transacciones de 1 satoshi. A mi wallet han llegado dos ingresos de las siguientes direcciones:

1Enjoy1C4bYBr3tN4sMKxvvJDqG8NkdR4Z
1SochiWwFFySPjQoi2biVftXn8NRPCSQC

Esto es un ataque organizado en toda regla.
 
Lo de Usa no creo que pase nada,será como siempre,patada palante y listo.
 
Mas leña para el fuego: parece que alguien esta spameando el blockchain masivamente con transacciones de 1 satoshi. A mi wallet han llegado dos ingresos de las siguientes direcciones:

1Enjoy1C4bYBr3tN4sMKxvvJDqG8NkdR4Z
1SochiWwFFySPjQoi2biVftXn8NRPCSQC

Esto es un ataque organizado en toda regla.

has leido en algún sitio la relacion de esas transacciones con el ataque o es de tu cosecha? lo digo sin acritud,

a mi tambien me han llegado.
 

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