Acaba de comenzar el COLAPSO bancario... ¡Fué en marzo!

El gobierno suizo informará en una conferencia de prensa a las 19:30

En directo, podrá verse también aquí.

Aunque, para entenderles bien, no basta saber alemán, sino conocer la peculiar pronunciación de esta gente. Menos mal que lo subtitulan...
 
Mano Zain estuvo aquí casi desde el principio . Acordarse . Un forero viejo olfateador de rastros que se dio cuenta que aquí había tomate y rápidamente salió en dirección a esta trinchera a pegar tiros como un orate. Siempre estoy en los bochinches más rellenitos.
 
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1. UBS dispuesto a pagar 2bln
2. Banco Suizo también paga +2bln
3. sonrisa: El Banco NACIONAL SUIZO inyecta 100 BILLONESpensando:( en billiones US)

en fin…Se ve ganas de calmar los mercados. El Nacional Suizo, ha doblado el rescate..

a ver en q queda todo este ‘ acuerdo’…y las reacciones..en lunes..


Reitero, porque NO me puedo creer q algunos q me citan, NO entienden..) loser:
En BIlIONES US, la noticia es de Bloomberg..
 
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Suiza aprueba la venta de Credit Suisse al banco UBS a precio de saldo para evitar un colapso.

El banco suizo UBS ha alcanzado un acuerdo para adquirir Credit Suisse a cambio de más de 2.000 millones de dólares en acciones propias (unos 1.900 millones de euros), en una operación que fusionará a las dos mayores entidades del país.

La transacción, adelantada en la tarde de este domingo por el Financial Times, se ha gestado durante un fin de semana agónico, cargado de reuniones de urgencia, en un intento, finalmente exitoso, por cerrar la venta antes de la apertura del mercado este lunes, cuando era previsible un nuevo desplome en Bolsa de Credit Suisse con potencial para provocar pérdidas a toda la banca.

La cifra de 2000 millones ni siquiera alcanza un tercio de los 7.400 millones de francos (8.000 millones de dólares) que marcó la capitalización de Credit Suisse el pasado viernes al cierre de mercado, lo que supone una venta a precio de saldo para el que era uno de los bancos de las grandes fortunas mundiales.

 
¡¡¡¡¡¡ CIEN MIL MILLONES DE FRANCOS SUIZOS PARA CREDIT SUISSE POR LA PUÑETERA CARA !!!!
Me quedo sin palabras.
¿ Apagarán el incendio con esa cantidad o solamente dará para suministrar un par de semanas o días de tranquilidad a los mercados ?
 
¡¡¡¡¡¡ CIEN MIL MILLONES DE FRANCOS SUIZOS PARA CREDIT SUISSE POR LA PUÑETERA CARA !!!!
Me quedo sin palabras.
¿ Apagarán el incendio con esa cantidad o solamente dará para suministrar un par de semanas o días de tranquilidad a los mercados ?

Esa es la garantía de liquidez que da el Banco Central...
 
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Suiza... tan luego SUIZA va a "cambiar la ley" así tan alegremente ?

¿ Entienden la gravedad del asunto ?. Ya NO IMPORTAN LAS LEYES siquiera !!. El origen de las "leyes" dictadas por "el pueblo" a través de "parlamentos" fue la base de la limitación de la voluntad del Soberano... pero era mentira !!

El "Soberano" (que antes sabíamos quién era y lo podíamos meter en una guillotina como último recurso), ahora "cambia las leyes" como se le sale de las bowling... y ni siquiera le conocemos la cara !!

Esto es MAS GRAVE que lo del Banco... una cosa es que manipulen las finanzas, otra diferente que nos avisen que NI EXISTEN LAS LEYES !!

Mundo de Ficción. No sé dónde termina esto realmente.

Desde que renunciaron al secreto bancario y a la estricta neutralidad armada se han estropeado. Con todo, siguen teniendo el sistema político menos indecente del mundo.
 
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Suiza... tan luego SUIZA va a "cambiar la ley" así tan alegremente ?

¿ Entienden la gravedad del asunto ?. Ya NO IMPORTAN LAS LEYES siquiera !!. El origen de las "leyes" dictadas por "el pueblo" a través de "parlamentos" fue la base de la limitación de la voluntad del Soberano... pero era mentira !!

El "Soberano" (que antes sabíamos quién era y lo podíamos meter en una guillotina como último recurso), ahora "cambia las leyes" como se le sale de las bowling... y ni siquiera le conocemos la cara !!

Esto es MAS GRAVE que lo del Banco... una cosa es que manipulen las finanzas, otra diferente que nos avisen que NI EXISTEN LAS LEYES !!

Mundo de Ficción. No sé dónde termina esto realmente.
Esto termina en un mundo sustentado en sistemas con máxima integridad donde la posibilidad de ser trampeados por los humanos sea exactamente 0

Es decir, en la hiperbitcoinizacion


allyourmodelsaredestroyed.com
 
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NO van a detener la expansión monetaria, haceros a la idea ya. Desde 2008 han mantenido el sistema financiero (y con él la economía real) en respiración asistida dando barra libre de crédito. El sistema financiero en 2023 es un gigantesco y monstruoso sistema ponzi. Si hay falta de liquidez saltará por los aires arrasando con todo provocando un descalabro nunca jamás visto. Sería efectivamente el Mad Max. Eso es lo que está en juego ahora mismo y por eso creo que van a recurrir a algún tipo de método no convencial para salvar el chiringuito que implique un evento fuerte como puede ser una guerra o cualesquiera catástrofe que traiga control social y demolición controlada.
 
Atentos a la portada de Economist que esta gente no da puntada sin hilo : la tapa de la alcantarilla de donde sale el hedor nauseabundo que está impregnando los ambientes bursátiles y financieros del mundo entero está hecha de un material muy especial. Para tapar los malos olores habría que poner la tapa de la alcantarilla en su sitio , en su marco.

es mayormente cobre, no?

a qué se refiere usted?

gracias.
 
Hay cinco Escuelas Económicas:

- El Keynesianismo
- La Escuela Austríaca
- La Escuela de Chicago
- El Modelo de Marx
- La Escuela de ANDY Y LUCAS !!

Obviamente esta última viene arrasando gracias a sus sagaces, modernos y muy aplicables principios.

meparto: meparto: meparto:
 
Ahora 10000 empleados de CS en Suiza a la fruta calle, todos los servicios centrales,

A ver cómo explica eso en la rueda de prensa el consejo federal suizo



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Receive free Credit Suisse Group AG updates We’ll send you a myFT Daily Digest email rounding up the latest Credit Suisse Group AG news every morning. UBS has agreed to buy Credit Suisse after increasing its offer to more than $2bn, with Swiss authorities poised to change the country’s laws to bypass a shareholder vote as they rush to announce a deal before Monday. The all-share deal between Switzerland’s two biggest banks is set to be announced as soon as Sunday evening and will be priced at a fraction of Credit Suisse’s closing price on Friday, all but wiping out the target’s shareholders, three people with direct knowledge of the situation said. UBS will now pay more than SFr0.50 a share in its own stock, up from a bid of SFr0.25 earlier today worth around $1bn that was rejected by the Credit Suisse board, the people said. But the price remains far below Credit Suisse’s closing price of SFr1.86 on Friday The Swiss National Bank has agreed to offer a $100bn liquidity line to UBS as part of the deal, according to two people familiar with the matter. UBS has also agreed to a softening of a material adverse change clause that would void the deal if its credit default spreads jump, they added. The material adverse change clause applies for the period between the signing and closing of the deal, the people said. There has been limited contact between the two lenders and the terms have been heavily influenced by the Swiss National Bank and regulator Finma, the people said. The US Federal Reserve has given its assent to the deal, they added. However, some of the people criticised the plans to circumvent normal corporate governance rules by preventing a UBS shareholder vote. Vincent Kaufmann, chief executive of Ethos Foundation, which represents Swiss pension funds that own between 3 per cent and 5 per cent of Credit Suisse and UBS, told the Financial Times that the move to bypass a shareholder vote on the deal was poor corporate governance. “I can’t believe our members and UBS shareholders will be happy about this,” he said. “I have never seen such measures taken; it shows how bad the situation is.” Both sides have been locked in discussions with regulators since Wednesday, when Credit Suisse asked the SNB to provide it with an emergency SFr50bn ($54bn) credit line. When this backstop failed to arrest a fall in its share price and stop panicked clients from withdrawing their money, the central bank stepped in to force a merger after becoming concerned about the viability of the country’s second-largest lender. Deposit outflows from Credit Suisse topped SFr10bn a day late last week, the FT has reported. Customers withdrew SFr111bn from the group in the final three months of last year. On Saturday night, the Swiss cabinet assembled in the finance ministry in Bern for a series of presentations from government officials, the SNB, Finma and representatives of the banking sector. The government is preparing emergency measures to fast-track the takeover and plans to introduce legislation that will bypass the normal six-week consultation period required for UBS shareholders so the deal can be sealed immediately, the people said. The framework of the deal has been designed by Swiss regulators to provide maximum stability to the country’s banking system, people briefed about the matter said. Swiss authorities have already secured preapproval from relevant regulators in the US and Europe, which are expected to issue co-ordinated statements today. UBS will dramatically shrink Credit Suisse’s investment bank, so that the combined entity will make up no more than a third of the merged group, two of the people said. Negotiators have given Credit Suisse the code name Cedar and UBS is referred to as Ulmus, according to people briefed on the matter. As part of the deal, the FT earlier reported that UBS was seeking concessions and protections from the government, particularly from any pending legal cases and regulatory investigations into Credit Suisse that could result in fines or losses. However, it is unlikely it will get indemnity from any losses on assets, one of the people involved said. UBS also wants to be allowed to phase in any extra demands it would face under global rules on capital that govern the world’s biggest banks. The deal with UBS comes just months after the Saudi National Bank and the Qatar Investment Authority injected close to SFr3bn into Credit Suisse as part of a SFr4bn capital raise. They are the bank’s two largest shareholders and jointly own 17 per cent of the stock. The SNB, UBS, Credit Suisse and Finma declined to comment
 
Ahora 10000 empleados de CS en Suiza a la fruta calle, todos los servicios centrales,

A ver cómo explica eso en la rueda de prensa el consejo federal suizo


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Receive free Credit Suisse Group AG updates We’ll send you a myFT Daily Digest email rounding up the latest Credit Suisse Group AG news every morning. UBS has agreed to buy Credit Suisse after increasing its offer to more than $2bn, with Swiss authorities poised to change the country’s laws to bypass a shareholder vote as they rush to announce a deal before Monday. The all-share deal between Switzerland’s two biggest banks is set to be announced as soon as Sunday evening and will be priced at a fraction of Credit Suisse’s closing price on Friday, all but wiping out the target’s shareholders, three people with direct knowledge of the situation said. UBS will now pay more than SFr0.50 a share in its own stock, up from a bid of SFr0.25 earlier today worth around $1bn that was rejected by the Credit Suisse board, the people said. But the price remains far below Credit Suisse’s closing price of SFr1.86 on Friday The Swiss National Bank has agreed to offer a $100bn liquidity line to UBS as part of the deal, according to two people familiar with the matter. UBS has also agreed to a softening of a material adverse change clause that would void the deal if its credit default spreads jump, they added. The material adverse change clause applies for the period between the signing and closing of the deal, the people said. There has been limited contact between the two lenders and the terms have been heavily influenced by the Swiss National Bank and regulator Finma, the people said. The US Federal Reserve has given its assent to the deal, they added. However, some of the people criticised the plans to circumvent normal corporate governance rules by preventing a UBS shareholder vote. Vincent Kaufmann, chief executive of Ethos Foundation, which represents Swiss pension funds that own between 3 per cent and 5 per cent of Credit Suisse and UBS, told the Financial Times that the move to bypass a shareholder vote on the deal was poor corporate governance. “I can’t believe our members and UBS shareholders will be happy about this,” he said. “I have never seen such measures taken; it shows how bad the situation is.” Both sides have been locked in discussions with regulators since Wednesday, when Credit Suisse asked the SNB to provide it with an emergency SFr50bn ($54bn) credit line. When this backstop failed to arrest a fall in its share price and stop panicked clients from withdrawing their money, the central bank stepped in to force a merger after becoming concerned about the viability of the country’s second-largest lender. Deposit outflows from Credit Suisse topped SFr10bn a day late last week, the FT has reported. Customers withdrew SFr111bn from the group in the final three months of last year. On Saturday night, the Swiss cabinet assembled in the finance ministry in Bern for a series of presentations from government officials, the SNB, Finma and representatives of the banking sector. The government is preparing emergency measures to fast-track the takeover and plans to introduce legislation that will bypass the normal six-week consultation period required for UBS shareholders so the deal can be sealed immediately, the people said. The framework of the deal has been designed by Swiss regulators to provide maximum stability to the country’s banking system, people briefed about the matter said. Swiss authorities have already secured preapproval from relevant regulators in the US and Europe, which are expected to issue co-ordinated statements today. UBS will dramatically shrink Credit Suisse’s investment bank, so that the combined entity will make up no more than a third of the merged group, two of the people said. Negotiators have given Credit Suisse the code name Cedar and UBS is referred to as Ulmus, according to people briefed on the matter. As part of the deal, the FT earlier reported that UBS was seeking concessions and protections from the government, particularly from any pending legal cases and regulatory investigations into Credit Suisse that could result in fines or losses. However, it is unlikely it will get indemnity from any losses on assets, one of the people involved said. UBS also wants to be allowed to phase in any extra demands it would face under global rules on capital that govern the world’s biggest banks. The deal with UBS comes just months after the Saudi National Bank and the Qatar Investment Authority injected close to SFr3bn into Credit Suisse as part of a SFr4bn capital raise. They are the bank’s two largest shareholders and jointly own 17 per cent of the stock. The SNB, UBS, Credit Suisse and Finma declined to comment

No será la primera vez. Piensa en cuando eliminaron Clariden Leu.

Lo peor va a ser que se va a llevar por delante la influencia del sistema financiero suizo en el mundo.
 
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Suiza... tan luego SUIZA va a "cambiar la ley" así tan alegremente ?

¿ Entienden la gravedad del asunto ?. Ya NO IMPORTAN LAS LEYES siquiera !!. El origen de las "leyes" dictadas por "el pueblo" a través de "parlamentos" fue la base de la limitación de la voluntad del Soberano... pero era mentira !!

El "Soberano" (que antes sabíamos quién era y lo podíamos meter en una guillotina como último recurso), ahora "cambia las leyes" como se le sale de las bowling... y ni siquiera le conocemos la cara !!

Esto es MAS GRAVE que lo del Banco... una cosa es que manipulen las finanzas, otra diferente que nos avisen que NI EXISTEN LAS LEYES !!

Mundo de Ficción. No sé dónde termina esto realmente.
Jorobar con Suiza, empieza a parecerse a España tragatochos
 
No será la primera vez. Piensa en cuando eliminaron Clariden Leu.

Lo peor va a ser que se va a llevar por delante la influencia del sistema financiero suizo en el mundo.
La verdad es que después de este arreglo de chichinabo, echar a 10000 empleados de CS en Suiza, saltarse todas las normas internas de los bancos y de Suiza para toma de decisiones en instituciones financieras, pasarse por el forro a los accionistas de UBS y CS dándoles céntimos por Franco, y trinc directamente a los tenedores de bonos de CS, habrá que estar muy orate para meter tus dineros aquí…estoy bastante decepcionado. La seguridad jurídica Suiza se ha ido a la guano.

Aunque el sistema Suizo es superior al Español, en este caso se han lucido. Esto lo podía haber diseñado perfectamente Latin Sanches y sus cuates. Una chapuza
 
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A ver cómo explica eso en la rueda de prensa el consejo federal suizo



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Receive free Credit Suisse Group AG updates We’ll send you a myFT Daily Digest email rounding up the latest Credit Suisse Group AG news every morning. UBS has agreed to buy Credit Suisse after increasing its offer to more than $2bn, with Swiss authorities poised to change the country’s laws to bypass a shareholder vote as they rush to announce a deal before Monday. The all-share deal between Switzerland’s two biggest banks is set to be announced as soon as Sunday evening and will be priced at a fraction of Credit Suisse’s closing price on Friday, all but wiping out the target’s shareholders, three people with direct knowledge of the situation said. UBS will now pay more than SFr0.50 a share in its own stock, up from a bid of SFr0.25 earlier today worth around $1bn that was rejected by the Credit Suisse board, the people said. But the price remains far below Credit Suisse’s closing price of SFr1.86 on Friday The Swiss National Bank has agreed to offer a $100bn liquidity line to UBS as part of the deal, according to two people familiar with the matter. UBS has also agreed to a softening of a material adverse change clause that would void the deal if its credit default spreads jump, they added. The material adverse change clause applies for the period between the signing and closing of the deal, the people said. There has been limited contact between the two lenders and the terms have been heavily influenced by the Swiss National Bank and regulator Finma, the people said. The US Federal Reserve has given its assent to the deal, they added. However, some of the people criticised the plans to circumvent normal corporate governance rules by preventing a UBS shareholder vote. Vincent Kaufmann, chief executive of Ethos Foundation, which represents Swiss pension funds that own between 3 per cent and 5 per cent of Credit Suisse and UBS, told the Financial Times that the move to bypass a shareholder vote on the deal was poor corporate governance. “I can’t believe our members and UBS shareholders will be happy about this,” he said. “I have never seen such measures taken; it shows how bad the situation is.” Both sides have been locked in discussions with regulators since Wednesday, when Credit Suisse asked the SNB to provide it with an emergency SFr50bn ($54bn) credit line. When this backstop failed to arrest a fall in its share price and stop panicked clients from withdrawing their money, the central bank stepped in to force a merger after becoming concerned about the viability of the country’s second-largest lender. Deposit outflows from Credit Suisse topped SFr10bn a day late last week, the FT has reported. Customers withdrew SFr111bn from the group in the final three months of last year. On Saturday night, the Swiss cabinet assembled in the finance ministry in Bern for a series of presentations from government officials, the SNB, Finma and representatives of the banking sector. The government is preparing emergency measures to fast-track the takeover and plans to introduce legislation that will bypass the normal six-week consultation period required for UBS shareholders so the deal can be sealed immediately, the people said. The framework of the deal has been designed by Swiss regulators to provide maximum stability to the country’s banking system, people briefed about the matter said. Swiss authorities have already secured preapproval from relevant regulators in the US and Europe, which are expected to issue co-ordinated statements today. UBS will dramatically shrink Credit Suisse’s investment bank, so that the combined entity will make up no more than a third of the merged group, two of the people said. Negotiators have given Credit Suisse the code name Cedar and UBS is referred to as Ulmus, according to people briefed on the matter. As part of the deal, the FT earlier reported that UBS was seeking concessions and protections from the government, particularly from any pending legal cases and regulatory investigations into Credit Suisse that could result in fines or losses. However, it is unlikely it will get indemnity from any losses on assets, one of the people involved said. UBS also wants to be allowed to phase in any extra demands it would face under global rules on capital that govern the world’s biggest banks. The deal with UBS comes just months after the Saudi National Bank and the Qatar Investment Authority injected close to SFr3bn into Credit Suisse as part of a SFr4bn capital raise. They are the bank’s two largest shareholders and jointly own 17 per cent of the stock. The SNB, UBS, Credit Suisse and Finma declined to comment
¿Cómo está el ambiente político y social con el temita en Suiza?.

La democracia participativa en Suiza originó una democracia de consenso (todo se pacta hasta el último detalle cediendo cada facción y se cumple) sino los mecanismos de bloqueo se activan (referendos populares o un bloque político no cede).

¿Puede ser castigado la Banca Suiza por la crisis fruta de la caída de CS por el mismo sistema político que a la vez fue origen de la estabilidad y seguridad jurídica centenaria de la Banca Suiza?.

¿Han obligado a UBS hacer el trabajo sucio ya que quizás hay referendo popular para ratificar o no si hubiera un rescate Estatal?.

Enviado desde mi SM-A505FN mediante Tapatalk
 
¿Cómo está el ambiente político y social con el temita en Suiza?.

La democracia participativa en Suiza originó una democracia de consenso (todo se pacta hasta el último detalle cediendo cada facción y se cumple) sino los mecanismos de bloqueo se activan (referendos populares o un bloque político no cede).

¿Puede ser castigado la Banca Suiza por la crisis fruta de la caída de CS por el mismo sistema político que a la vez fue origen de la estabilidad y seguridad jurídica centenaria de la Banca Suiza?.

¿Han obligado a UBS hacer el trabajo sucio ya que quizás hay referendo popular para ratificar o no si hubiera un rescate Estatal?.

Enviado desde mi SM-A505FN mediante Tapatalk

La gente de izquierda en Suiza está muy quemada, seguramente habrá una propuesta de referéndum para bloquear este acuerdo. Los de centro, derecha y radicales estan más callados pero no creo que estén muy contentos cuando empiecen los despidos y los miles de ex empleados de cs empiecen a hacer trinc.

Preveo cambios en el gobierno suizo, esto se va a cargar el gobierno de derecha, no me extrañaría que los zurdos se hagan con el poder

 

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